What a wonderful conversation.

I've been watching and reading everything since it started and I have to say

I've never seen quite a staff like you bunch before.
You prefer to argue with your players instead of actually want to resolve the problem at hand and continue to make the problem worse
by your behavior shown. At first, it was fairly tame and full of good points, but now look at what it's devolved into because you
can't even manage a simple thread on your forums.

Now, who the fuck am I?
I'm an anonymous person who's been watching the entire time, I don't play on the server but I do know a very good amount about CraftyMynes and how it works. Trust me on that. I've also moderated Minecraft server forums before, and this is in no way shape or form how any
staff should handle a thread like this AT ALL.

(OMG ALT ALT ALT isn't true at all. But have fun with saying that.)

The only real person I see who is actually trying to remedy the situation is rnc2011, and I applaud him for that. THAT is how you handle
this, not act like R4, Vene, or almost every other staff member that has replied to this dumpster fire of a thread.
R4 and Vene's behaviors are the real issue here, R4 seems to want to argue over the littlest shit just for the sake of arguing, and Vene
is overreacting way too much to his FIRST NAME being posted.

First names are pretty much public information, people. If you post it online, it stays online. If you don't want people to use your
name in a specific place online, DO NOT POST IT. Vene seems to have done quite the opposite by making his first name public to this
server and people using it is entirely his fault. Now, removing his name and asking people to no longer use it is perfectly fine, but he
brought it on himself.

I've seen this argument quite often, and I'm going to shut it down right here and now.

"If strangers used my name, I'd be uncomfortable." No you wouldn't. It happens all the time, have you ever worked a job where you had a nametag?
Have you ever had someone call you for a job interview?
Have you ever met a stranger and told them your name?
Have famous people ever freaked out when a fan approached them on the street because said fan knew their name?
Does Kim Kardashian lose her shit every time a stranger who writes for a magazine uses her name in an article?

Dictating to people whether or not they can use your name or not and requiring them to ask permission is utterly stupid and going so far
as to ban Grassling over using Vene's first name is petty. It seems that staff reiterating that staff had already banned Grassling
multiple times beforehand makes it look like they were looking for any reason to perm ban Grassling, and they got one because
Vene made his name public.

Shut the hell up about whether or not it's legal or not to use a first name, because the majority of first names are impossible to track
back to the specific person that you're referring to. If Vene's name was Bob, you couldn't just type "Bob" into Google and you'd immediately
find Vene's Facebook account, that's not how it works.
And so what if people know your first name in a Minecraft server? Either get over it and learn to live with it, or throw a complete
tempertantrum and get someone banned because of your own mistake.

Come on.

And then, the very handling of this thread is entirely fucking unprofessional. There are MULTIPLE ways staff could have handled this
and they were all ignored just for the sake of arguing the point that they are not toxic. (Ironic, if you ask me.)

If the staff TRULY AND HONESTLY cared about improving the way they handle themselves on the server, they would have made it very clear in
the first place, but clearly the majority of them just want to make the situation worse by arguing. There's only been about 2 staff members
that have shown true caring for the growing hostility between staff and players, the rest of staff don't seem to give a shit.

How could have this been handled then?

Let's list all of the possibilities.

1. Say "Oh we're so sorry you feel this way! Please tell us why you think we're toxic assholes and we'll try our best to work towards
being better towards our players and not spend hours upon hours arguing with them! If you do have evidence of a staff member being rude
like R4 has been for the majority of this thread, please submit it so we can make sure it doesn't happen again!"

Or something along those lines that is neutral, yet remorseful and hopeful of a better future on the server.

2. Lock the thread and have staff reply to it asking that if anyone has a problem with staff, they should take it up with them
privately and not blow this already fucked situation way out of porportion. In other words, "Take it up with crafty."

3. Have an open discussion with your players about why they feel like staff have been rude constantly and saying shit like "Rip you" when
a player dies to a server related issue, apologize, then go into staff chat and have a discussion with other staff members about
their behavior and how they can improve. If they don't improve, you can actually demote them! How crazy is that?

4. Don't argue with people.

5. Don't argue.

6. Don't. Argue.

Oh look, you went and argued.

So congratulations to the CraftyMynes staff and R4 for proving that there is indeed a problem with them and they aren't willing to change,
they'd rather argue with you for 18-20 hours just because they don't like that they're being called out!

Good job! Let's all throw a party with ice cream and cake over the failure of staff!