SeantasticSean

Last active 6 years ago

  1. 6 years ago
    Fri Jun 2 00:43:18 2017
    SeantasticSean posted in Clarification on Rules?.

    @R4iscool1 Well since I was present, chat is not the place to ask for lengthy clarification of the rules, if you have an issue PM or take it to the forums like now. Arguing about it in the chat is not tolerated so I would ask you to not do so in future. The area we referred to does exist in the rules too, retarded is a controversial term which I informed you in chat and it is mentioned in the rules.

    I'm sorry but as I said chat is not the place for that sort of discussion, if you have a concern or you feel clarification is inadequate take it to here not argue it in chat. I think you'd find not arguing would also help people give you clarification.

    I'm glad that you are using the forums this way now but you were provided a number of explanations even more lengthy than the ones above in chat but you wanted to argue instead, no one ever asked you to stop because you were asking a question, we asked you to stop because you kept arguing and ignoring what we said. Therefore asking you to take it to forums.

    I wasn't, arguing, I was asking. I didn't question the punishment just the charge. I never once hinted to the idea that I thought I shouldn't have been kicked. I didn't realize that it was against the rules to ask why I was kicked and what rule I broke.

    I was told I mentioned a word that is controversial which is against the rules. I said that that wasn't in the rules, it only mentions controversial topics being against the rules and using hate speech or excessive swears against other players as being against the rules. So I asked what rule I broke then. Then I was told to drop it, which I did.

    And I still cant find it in the wording that says I can't use controversial words. I understand its not the kindest word. But there is a huge difference between not being able to discuss controversial topics and using controversial words that is being overlooked. There is a difference between using the word retarded and talking badly about retarded kids.

  2. Thu Jun 1 23:59:30 2017
    SeantasticSean posted in Clarification on Rules?.

    @WBlaine The rules that encompass the subject with which you are concerned are the following:

    Be respectful to other players - Don’t use extremely derogatory terms or epithets...

    Practice good chat etiquette - Don’t use caps, don’t spam, don’t discuss controversial, sensitive or offensive topics (e.g. sex, sexual identity or preferences, race, politics, religion, drugs, etc.)...

    The word that you are speaking of is often used in a derogatory manner that is offensive some and insensitive to people who are affected by such conditions. If we were to form a list of all subjects and words that are not acceptable, it would be bound to be incomplete as some subjects would unintentionally be neglected, allowing people to use the absense of some offensive terms from the list as a defense for discussing them. Thus, we leave it intentionally vague to accommodate for all cases. If you are told by a staff member to drop a subject, it is for a reason. If you need further clarification, the best approach is to simply move on and send a personal message to the staff member involved so as to get your answer without continuing to disturb main chat. Avoiding a word that others find offensive will not harm your gameplay, while making the server more welcoming for all.

    I hope this helps

    I totally understand, I was a staff member many times before. I can't stand servers that attempt to name every conceivable situation and do not allow for interpretation.

    My only issue was that I was not using it in a way to harm a person or attack a topic that fell into those categories named by the online staff and failed to properly explain what I had exactly broken. The area that they referred to does not exist in the terms they used to describe it.

    And like I said, I wouldn't have said it had I known I could be kicked for using it in a seemingly passive way. Based on what you said, if I use retarded in any sentence regardless of context I could be punished, which I understand but I do believe that clarification by staff members or the rules could be improved.

    Thanks for the response. I don't do this to break balls, I just was honestly curious as to the real reason why. I just wanted a real explanation other than a "drop the subject because you asked a question."

  3. Thu Jun 1 21:48:04 2017
    SeantasticSean started the conversation Clarification on Rules?.

    I got kicked for saying "thats retarded" in regards to low wages for servers in southern states on the basis that it falls under controversial words or terms. I see no section in the rules that I violated however, as it is not a curse word,
    I was not speaking about a controversial topic, and it isn't hate speech.

    I don't really care about the kick, I just want to know where the boundary is. If I knew that I could possibly be banned for talking about my mentally retarded cousin then I would have not used the term in the first place.

    If I am wrong and I did violate a rule I'd love to know because the staff I was speaking to had only that to say to me and I honestly did not know how I violated a rule other than because the staff member did not like the term that I used.

    Response to when I asked what rule I broke:
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  4. Thu Jun 1 21:35:22 2017
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