Honder

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  1. 6 years ago
    Wed Dec 6 20:38:34 2017
    iclutchHD changed Honder's group to Suspended.
  2. Wed Dec 6 19:13:18 2017
    Honder started the conversation FOR THE ADMINS!.

    The admins are going to make a choice, whether its right or wrong, and you're going to pay the price

    this game is dying

    this server is dying

    and what crafty won't tell you is that its going to be down in less than two years

    have fun, good luck, and one time for the admins , I Love you guys :D

  3. Wed Dec 6 12:34:04 2017
    Honder started the conversation Honder's Ban Appeal.

    In Game Name: Honder

    Reason for your ban: Not Listening to Staff

    Why should you be unbanned:

    TO START - PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THE ADMIN REVIEWING MY CASE IS NOT AP0C- HE PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN THE BANNING PROCESS, AND WOULD ONLY GIVE A BIASED REVIEW. THANK YOU

    Two days ago, a staff member told me to stop typing in caps,

    here's the logs from that conversation:

    [11:16:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> WTB 500 rails
    <Jibber Jabber>
    [11:25:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> WTB gold and iron in MASSIVE quantities

    [11:25:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <russiangirl504> wtb?
    <Asking a question about what wanting to buy means>
    [11:25:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> WANTING TO BUY powered rails
    <Emphasizing the definition of what wanting to buy means, so i can get someone to sell me the materials>

    [11:25:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§6Dennari43§r> watch the caps pls

    [11:25:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> i was emphasizing something based on a question

    [11:25:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§6Dennari43§r> don't care

    [11:26:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] russiangirl504 whispers to you: how much iron and gold
    <As you can see, my emphasis led to a response from the person who asked the question, a business transaction happened because I used caps.

    [11:26:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> i don't care if you dojn't care man. i was explaining something to another player

    <Jibber Jabber, Jibber Jabber>

    [11:26:20] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§6Dennari43§r> no, you listen to staff, or else you get kicked

    [11:26:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> watch your tone my friend.

    [11:26:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <AP0C4L1P53> staff is there to help, please refrain from doing it again

    [11:26:50] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> ? are you serious right now?

    [11:27:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> if your staff is out of line, i'm going to call them on it, period.
    [11:27:52] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> i'm an ideal player,i don't curse in chat, i don't spam, and i've donated, if you kick me you're hurting the server, and crafty wouldn't like that at all

    [11:28:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Cileklim§r> i must admit that the "don't care" part was unnecessary

    [11:28:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§6Dennari43§r> lol

    [11:28:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> just dont do that caps thing again

    [11:28:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] You whisper to §4AP0C4L1P53§r: look, i'm not going to repeat myself

    [11:29:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] You whisper to §4AP0C4L1P53§r: i wasn't out of line, he was.

    [11:29:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] §4AP0C4L1P53§r whispers to you: im talking to Dennari43
    [11:29:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] §4AP0C4L1P53§r whispers to you: ill handle it ,just dont put logs on the fire
    [11:29:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] You whisper to §4AP0C4L1P53§r: yeah i want to file a report against him, where do i go for that?

    [11:30:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] §4AP0C4L1P53§r whispers to you: im handling it already

    [11:30:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] §4AP0C4L1P53§r whispers to you: report when there are no admins

    As you can see, players and Admins alike admitted that the Helper was out of line in this situation, as Ap0c was handling the report that I filed; shortly after, an "apology" was given to me by the helper!

    Yay right?

    wrong....

    lets first discus what a fake-apology consists of:

    Please watch that video, the professor is a PhD-graduate student in human behavior, and highlights the flaws of reasoning behind fake apologies. Now that I've gone over what a fake apology is, let's go into the apology that was given to me by the Helper in Question.

    [11:30:53] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§6Dennari43§r> i do apologize for the don't care thing, but still it is against the rules to use excessive caps, oblivious to your reason

    [11:31:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§7Honder§r> excesive: "more than necessary, above moderate"
    [11:31:52] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§7Honder§r> an explaination to another player doesn't qualify excesive, especially in trading situations where clarity is key
    [11:32:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§7Honder§r> also, your apology isn't accepted, since i believed it to be unsincere, and quite "excesive"

    [11:32:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> honder
    [11:32:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> he said sorry

    [11:33:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§7Honder§r> man if you wanna talk about this meet me in the discord, i'm done twitter typing

    staff had instructed me to stop typing, I was obliging to this request through this last message, until an Admin went far out of line:

    [11:33:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> i said stop
    [11:34:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> knock it off honder. he apologized in front of every1 for you, he meant it and thats a good apology justifying his actions
    [11:34:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> good enough for me

    <I had said NOTHING between these messages, I want that to be clear>

    [11:34:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> i dont fkn care if you donated
    [11:34:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> its a donation
    [11:34:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> not forced

    [11:34:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> watch your mouth with me please
    [11:34:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§2Honder§r> if you are going to curse at me, do it in a PM

    I offered the admin to express his anger with me in a private message, and he continued, even going as far as to insult a deceased family member of mines (he had no awareness of the passing)

    [11:34:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <§4AP0C4L1P53§r> wanna leave? go cry to you mama about not wanting to type

    The argument didn't end in the chat, however, as it poured over into the discord of craftymynes, that conversation went similar to chat, except Ap0c INSISTED on repeated interruptions of me while I spoke, signaling that he was not interested in listening to what I had to say, didn't I get banned for "not listening"?

    The staff member was blunt, inconsiderate, rude, and offer excuses for his actions, and made the donation I gave to the server feel insignificant, when you treat ANY human being like this, you're not going to get an ideal resopnse.

    I am not a Dog.

    I am not a piece of garbage.

    I will NOT be put down by someone abusing their power in order to receive a submissive response.

    TO CONCLUDE:

    • I believe that the punishment grossly outweighed the crime in this situation, the ONLY thing that I did wrong in this exchange was continue to go on with the Helper’s comments after he gave his fake apology, I should have accepted he wouldn’t be sincere about it, and moved on, for that, I am Sorry.
    • Craftymynes is a great server, and I am willing to overlook this incident as minor growing pain, as common in any relationship that is built over time.
    • The last three months spent on this server have been nothing short of exceptional, and I look forward to building (pun-intended) with the reputation that I have here.
  4. Wed Nov 29 13:17:21 2017
    Honder posted in Honder's Shoppinglist.

    Thank you guys for the informative responses. Sorry for the spam post, i'll go ahead and delete it now

  5. Sun Nov 26 09:02:11 2017
    Honder started the conversation General History of CraftyMynes.

    As a huge fan of the server and Minecraft in general, it would be cool to read up on some of the history of the server.

    Most of the people I play with don't know too much about the server's history (from what I've gathered) and I think it would be good to develop a better understanding of the place I call my Mynecraft Home!

    If an experienced Admin or Moderator could just answer a few questions I have, It would greatly be appreciated:

    1- What year did the server start, and who were the original 5 members (do all of them still play?)?

    2- What's the biggest challenge the server has had from a management standpoint?

    3- Who is responsible for the super dope spawn!?

    4- Has the server always been plug-in free?

    5- If you could put any neat tips here, such as most toxic player ever on the server, farthest anybody has ever made it, biggest base, biggest raid, etc. this would be the spot to do it!

    Again, if you guys don't have the time to answer some of this, totally fine, but I think it's neat to learn a bit of history about a place, and how it got its stripes.

    - Honder

  6. Fri Nov 24 05:50:29 2017
    Honder joined the forum.