I would like to enter to the draw only since I probably won't make it to the cawpetition ^^

@Abbasilol Nah,as i said dont waste your time, play your game and enjoy it.
Also staffs Rock! Just thank them for this good server :)

What can I say, you are free to not waste your precious time, sir!

By the way, you are really good at making me sound like a whining douche.

@R4iscool1 The majority of people you are blocking with something like this are legit players.

@Sofatroll , @OmegaSniper4eva , @OtherGreenGamer , and?

This, is the majority of people?

I'm afraid what you said cannot be proven until someone shows proof, the stats that confirm the effectiveness of this method.

Dozens of players are getting banned every week and you officially give them another chance to do the same mistakes again, for the sake of 3-5 players.

No offense but in my opinion, it's not worth it. Just my two cents though.

@Valgys To the original post I think the only improvement to speak of is just not to mention "you are welcome to come back on an alt" in the appeal denial response because it does give mixed messages.

Well said!

@PapaNeon Your example shows exactly why an ip ban won't outright work 100% of the time, exactly as the current system isn't 100% flawless.

Correct! I'm glad its clear now.
IP ban is just a temporary solution because of how system works.

Yes, an IP ban is same with a ban + ban + IP ban
But there are benefits. Such as?

• Saves time to staff members. (obviously)
• More strict than telling them to come back with alts.

@PapaNeon the current system isn't 100% flawless.

This is why we're all reading this thread in the first place.

You see, we're gaining some progress, I believe that if we can get more opinions about how to solve this, we can successfully find a better solution.

My knowledge is limited to some point since I'm neither admin nor mod.

I hope they can give more information to us instead of "biting" so we can actually think of something. Thanks for reading this far :)

I'll go right back to the start then.

Scenario 1

Player A hacks and gets caught.
Player A posts a ban appeal on forum.
Admins tell Player A that s/he is free to come back with an alt.
Player A buys an alt account on ebay for around $5 dollars.
Player A keeps playing with his/her alt like a normal player for few hours.
Player A decides to hack again.
A is more cautious this time. S/he does his/her best to not get caught again.
A successfully gains a huge advantage over other players.
After some while, A gets caught while hacking again.
A gets IP banned.
A changes his/her IP address and buys a new alt.
A is angry because s/he got banned twice. S/he does his/her best to spam the shit out of the server.
As always, A gets banned again. Again, and again.

Scenario 2

Player B hacks and gets caught.
Player B gets IP banned.
Player B posts a ban appeal on forum.
Player B is told that hackers are not tolerated, his/her appeal is denied (for real).
Player B decides to hack in another server instead.

Which one sounds more reasonable?
Staff, why the extra work?

I did my best to explain the real problem. If this gets avoided too, well, there is nothing I can do about it.

@Rybye @Cileklim Did you even read the convo?

Did you even read any word?

Are there any stats about this? What percent of the players decided to come clean after getting banned?

We are not expecting you to do anything like that. But why are you guys allowing them to come back and literally welcoming them back with alts?

Thank you.

There are actually no ways to prevent a hacker from coming back. Correct?