We're gonna miss you ghost :( Do well on all your testing stuff!

So what you're saying is that once I run out of my MVP months, if I re-donate to be VIP+ before it runs out, then I'll retain MVP status for that VIP+ month?

We have a castle, but it's small in comparison, despite the detail work. We've been thinking of posting pics, but I've been putting it off until I get more stuff done around it, like placing grass and torches and finishing the farms. :/

@OPtimusjag what, my castle isn't cool enough for you? :P

She's the replacement for @ryleeraee who stepped down from admin position.

New Admin! Caught within a few minutes of her ascension to godliness. :D

@GrinningBobcat Just set aside that WW2 because I fear this thread will be locked from talking of the events.

As for the animal discussion... The video is an experiment, meaning it's going to give results we have to interpret. If a human is capable of thought, communication, expression, memory, and recognition what's stopping animals? We can't read their thoughts so what's to say they don't wonder about their origins? What's to say they don't try and understand US, the strangers to them. When a person sees themselves and associate the image they see with themselves is that not self-consciousness? I feel you didn't bother to watch the video due to the title but this is genuine.

Interpretation is also not anything factual, it's entirely opinionated. And genuine or not, it doesn't prove the point I am making. If you do a little more research that isn't directed exactly at the outcome you want and you'll see unbiased research. And there have been plenty of studies to solve whether animals can have deep thoughts. Some are to a degree aware of themselves, but there requires a higher brain function to think critically. And I don't mean instinctual or survivalistic problem solving like using rocks or twigs to open food and things like that. I mean critical thinking, deep-seated thought processes that are not evident in animal brains. There's a lot stopping animals from being higher creatures like humans. They are limited by their brains which are all underdeveloped in comparison to a human one. Or, throw science aside for a second, and just take the observation that humans are the dominant beings on the earth and despite what the "Plant of the Apes" movies told us, monkeys will never grow to our level of intelligence and be equal to us in brain capacity and power. But believe what you want, cause there will always be people out there trying to prove otherwise. So no matter how long this goes on for, there will be people backing both of our points up. Lets just leave it at that and move on, cause nothing good is going to come out of this particular discussion.

@GrinningBobcat I'm going to edit the first comment so that people have to state any potential bias they have before discussing anything.

Example of bias: I have a christian-influenced background but I am no agnostic (Means you don't know if their is a god[s] and won't deny the possibility of there being any). I come from a lower middle class Hispanic family from Puerto Rico but a couple generations back my family's bloodline is from Spain. I am a realist that's varies in optimism meaning sometimes I've got faith in humanity and sometimes I feel like we're all doomed. I believe in the existence of evolution but as for human's origins involving evolution I won't deny the possibility of it being wrong but I still favor it since it makes sense. I have little else to say so that's it.

Good way to break rules if we start talking about different kinds of religions and belief systems. I advice not doing so, unless it's just a general outlook on life. And our bias shouldn't have anything to do with a thread about discussing different views of things. Everyone has a bias and pinpointing it will just allow others to brush off certain views because they don't agree with or like someone's "bias." As long as the claim is legitimate, they have no reason to announce their personal beliefs if they don't want to.

@gilbertboys :[ the first thing I did on craftymynes, 2 years ago was try to escape spawn and got killed by miu twice.

Guess you should of explored spawn then.

When I first joined the server, I wanted to explore spawn, get to know the place I was joining. And they would still ask instead of looking at the signs around them. And once they go to spawn again, they'd still be faced with the question of is this vanilla. Why should we hide spawn from them? It says vanilla when they look CM up. If they choose to deny that fact, that's their fault, and hiding them from spawn and the stuff Crafty has done for us that seem too amazing to be vanilla is not going to change that, because eventually they will learn about that stuff anyways.

If ya want something hard to read/half not english but still is, but has some very unexpected things(interpret that however you like, you're probably all right) from what we'd expect from the 14th century, then I'd suggest The Canterbury Tales. Difficult to read cause it's all middle english, but it has some wonderful moments that will definitely catch you off guard. It's really fun to try and understand it and even more bizarre if you listen to it in middle english.