People have already done auctions on forums before. And auctions always bump prices up way beyond what they should be cause it's always little increases in price per bid, but then you step back and realize you payed double or triple what the item was worth.

@Derndeff Anyone who doesn't have an emerald/diamond exchange system through villagers should not trust using emeralds as a valued currency. (and players will not trust this. I won't, anyway) One way you could fix this is by having an emerald/diamond exchange system that is static, either done at spawn or by a trusted player.

But then you have the exact same issue. An emerald is just a diamond, and diamonds have a seemingly unstable value. (or at least that's the argument, right?)

Anyway, if you believe heavily in the emerald system, why don't you start selling items for emeralds? You know roughly what they're worth, so why not start using it as a currency?

What is with you guys so desperately wanting a villager trade for emeralds to diamonds! It's never going to happen again! There's no need for it.
If you haven't been listening, an emerald is NOT "just a diamond." They are completely different. It's comparing a dollar bill to a diamond ring. They are NOT the same. Emeralds are the official minecraft currency for in game use, but people don't like using them cause they apparently can't grow crops and go to spawn to sell them for limitless amounts of cash. All the people that complain about not having access to emeralds should really check out the trading post. There are villagers there that you can trade stuff with, like crops, which you can grow very easily and in mass quantity if you work for it. There you go. Emeralds for days! (btw, the unstable part is not the argument here. It's wanting to switch from diamond use to primarily emerald use and the arguments for/against that. The economy will always shift around. And this one is still new, so prices haven't settled yet even for diamonds because we are still getting over what prices were like before reset when diamonds weren't as valuable. They are unstable because we are still figuring out what they are worth.)
This emerald/diamonds exchange system through villagers isn't going to happen. It can't unless we wanna live in a place where diamonds can literally be thrown away and no one will bat an eye about it, because that's what happened before reset. Everyone converted every emerald they had into diamonds and diamonds became super inflated. People scrambled to make emeralds then, cause they could buy their expensive jewelry with it. But now we've taken away your jewelry store and are asking you to pay in cash. It's tough, I get it. I was in favor of keeping the custom villagers myself. But we don't have that now and we shouldn't have it. It'll be abused by diamond horders who only hurt the economy.
And what is this apparent issue of trust? Did you get scammed or something? Cause the people I know are trustworthy. Even the raiders and people I would never play alongside in game I am freely willing to trade with because in trading they are honest people who price things for what they are worth. The only issue is that raiders and griefers rarely do anything besides destroy, so they often don't have a desire to earn emeralds through farming or vanilla villager trading, so they'll probably still pay in diamond until they start stealing emeralds too.
And once we do establish how much an emerald is worth for different items, there will be a monopoly unless other shops follow suit in the conversion. This then makes more shops convert to emerald trades and match the prices of other shops, creating a competitive economy based on emeralds for basic items. All it takes is a few people to open shops, even temporary shops, in order to start the movement.

@Derndeff Back on the core topic of the thread, the only way to have a working currency system is to use something that has practically no value (like emeralds), but there would need to be an agreement among a majority of suppliers of how much an emerald is worth to start out with. However, this "system" would quickly collapse from the lack of trust present in anarchy.

People won't *trust* that an emerald is worth anything, so they won't trade their valuables for something that has no real value.

The emerald currency would almost instantly collapse without some kind of enforcement from a government. And CraftyMynes will never have a server-wide government.
(Note that you could in theory form your own government and create your own currency, but that's not what's being discussed here)

One big problem with this. CraftyMynes isn't anarchy. We have rules. You scam, you get banned. And most everyone can talk to someone else and get a fairly honest answer(except a few known bad players) of how much something is worth. That's always how we've survived in the past and it's always how we'll survive in the future. Just the other day someone messaged me and asked me how much I would value a certain trade at and I gave my honest answer to what I would buy or sell it at. Many other's would do the same. We don't need a villager custom trade for this. We don't need admin giving a set value to emeralds. We just need to do what we've always done. Be good people and a great community that can be kind to one another and produce healthy trades. And we honestly don't even need to do much conversion of what we think an emerald is worth compared to a diamond. We kinda already have it from natural villager trades and what player shops sell those items for in diamonds.
And for those of you arguing for the point of diamond's functionality, I'm not saying stop using diamond. For expensive things, keep using diamond if you want. We don't have to only use emerald if we don't want to. I'm just saying we should be recognizing emerald for it's monetary intent and use it as such instead of relying so heavily on a resource as currency.

@Ealdwine_Drasax She says it so poetically

:D Thanks!

@_Confederacy_ We had an emerald to diamond trade from a villager in the trade post and VIP lounge on the last server.

The results of this were not pleasant.

For me, there are no uses for emeralds other than to look pretty in a chest or maybe pyramid a beacon platform. They are not very useful to me.
This is why I use diamonds as a currency. You can DO things with them. An emerald to diamond trade like one from the last map will cause inflation of diamonds and make them have little value. Unless you want that, leave the economy alone.

I think there's some miscommunication here. Let me clarify.

@_Confederacy_ We had an emerald to diamond trade from a villager in the trade post and VIP lounge on the last server.

The results of this were not pleasant.

I'm not sure about Ealdwine, but my suggestion has nothing to do with a villager trade for emeralds to diamonds. What I think we are both suggesting is that players that have lots of diamonds can freely trade their diamonds for large amounts of emeralds. A player based emerald to diamond trade. And before you say it, yes, some people out there would be willing to make these trades. I for one would. I find emeralds far more useful than diamonds. Once you have mending on everything, diamonds are, in all honesty, worthless in use and function.

@_Confederacy_ For me, there are no uses for emeralds other than to look pretty in a chest or maybe pyramid a beacon platform. They are not very useful to me.
This is why I use diamonds as a currency. You can DO things with them.

Here I think you may have stopped reading posts. I directly explain this.

@Dennari43 Forget the use of diamonds versus emeralds, cause I know that's a reason people don't like emeralds. It's because you can't make tools and gear with emeralds, but diamonds you can. But we're not talking resources here. We're talking currency and economy. Diamonds are a resource. Emeralds are directly intended by mojang to be for trading, at least villager trading. They are meant to be minecraft currency. That might be why they don't have that many other uses for them.

As I explained in this previous post, emeralds are not meant to have a function beyond currency. That's what money is supposed to be like. You can't take a dollar bill or coin and use it for anything besides monetary value. That is exactly what emeralds are for. Your desire for a currency that is also a resource is not a true currency. It's trading jewelry for lumber instead of paying the man in cash.
Yes you can DO things with diamonds. But you are NOT supposed to do anything with emeralds. They are solely meant as a currency. No other function.

@Ealdwine_Drasax How does economy work? simple Supply and Demand. We already have the supply and demand of our resources, However I purpose this, what if the Emerald was used. It is rare, not able to be crafted into anything else. If we use it as a dollar or something of that nature, we could construct a strong and vibrant economy that would have its limits, but grow in a more controlled rate, and it would be sustained.

^ yeah.
It's not exactly rare cause you can farm crops and trade for emeralds with villagers an infinite amount of times. But yeah I agree

@TheBlizWiz The main problem for emeralds is that there is no emeralds for diamonds trade.

@Dennari43 Diamonds are a resource. Emeralds are directly intended by mojang to be for trading.

There is a trade. It's just that no one has settled on it. Like I said, diamonds are a resource. They have a functional purpose besides monetary. We have made it into currency when it isn't. In an economy, you use currency to buy resources. Emeralds=currency. Diamonds=resource. So that checks out just fine. If you're talking about the villager trade we used to have, again I stress: Diamonds are not currency. Not real currency, anyways. The purpose of emeralds is like a dollar bill. You can't craft it into something else. It's entire reason for existing is to be considered money. The emeralds to diamonds trade is like going to a jewelry store and buying every diamond they have in stock and calling your fancy necklaces money.
What I'm trying to explain in as many metaphors as possible is that emeralds are meant solely as paper money that you use to buy items with. The person that is then payed the emeralds for the product in turn spends them on someone else's items they wish to buy. And so on. That's how a basic economy functions. When we trade diamonds, we are running into the issue of keeping what we get and hording it, taking the "diamond currency" out of circulation and hurting the economy. Emeralds do not have that much value function wise and so there's no real purpose to horde them, so nothing gets taken out of circulation, and you can always get more by trading with villagers, so we're actually adding more money into the economy when we use emeralds, which right now is exactly what we need.

I agree. Diamonds are very valuable right now. I've noticed that even I stockpile diamonds and never spend them, cause I can get my own resources easier than the currency to buy the resources. Literally in the past few days I have gotten more wither skulls than I have diamonds. That's kinda ridiculous. What I'm wondering is why aren't we relying more on emeralds as a smaller currency? One that is easily gained by anyone that can grow crops and go to spawn to trade. It's the farmer's currency instead of the rich man's currency. In simpler terms: why are we paying with hundred dollar bills(diamonds) instead of 1 dollar bills(emeralds)? Especially when very few even own that much money. Some people argue it's because emeralds are just not worth enough to trade, but if I remember correctly who said that, it was one of the "rich" players who can afford to turn their nose up at emeralds. But a lot of us are not said "rich" players who can afford to pay in hundred dollar bills or we choose not to. But I for one love to trade in emeralds. It's something I can easily afford to spend and I can earn it just as easily. Yes, items will cost more emeralds than they would diamonds. But like my comparison, emeralds are $1 and diamonds $100. Big difference. But the main difference is that emeralds are easy to get. Diamonds are not as easy. So why are we not using emeralds as much as we probably should? Forget the use of diamonds versus emeralds, cause I know that's a reason people don't like emeralds. It's because you can't make tools and gear with emeralds, but diamonds you can. But we're not talking resources here. We're talking currency and economy. Diamonds are a resource. Emeralds are directly intended by mojang to be for trading, at least villager trading. They are meant to be minecraft currency. That might be why they don't have that many other uses for them.

So, yeah. My petition for emeralds to be used more as a currency, as they were intended to be.

If this rank were implemented, it should be simply a different colored name, no rewards, just to identify a person as a youtuber or notify people they might be recording. Or if possible, a little symbol or icon next to their name on the tab menu(that way people that already have a rank can keep their color, but also get identified as a youtuber like Baron). I don't know if that is possible, but something to that effect that serves as an indicator. However, I think it shouldn't be given to just anyone that hops on the server and says they're a youtuber, even if they legitimately are. It should be earned through actual video uploads on their channel that involve the server. Like they should have a few videos up where they are playing on the server and putting CraftyMynes in their description. They should be invested and dedicated to the server before they get the luxury of a title.

My name is a reference to the old roman currency denarius or denarii cause I collect coins from around the world. The number 43 is a weird combination of 23 and 42, which comes from the Numbers on Lost. btw my name is in no way reference to Daenery, which a lot of people think. I don't even watch Game of Thrones. :/

For my skin, I wanted something tough looking, Asssassin's Creed/pirate like, but also something cute, so I custom made a skin and after years of tweaking colors and improving it, I eventually got this.