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As long as no one actually uses this poll as a basis for or a tool in deciding whether or not to reset the server, we'll be fine. :P Sofatroll did mention that this is unofficial and does not represent those who aren't active on the forums, and he linked the main discussion as well. The multiple voting thing is definitely a problem, but it looks like it can't be helped. At least this isn't official. :)
@Dennari43 sorry, I should have been more clear. I completely agree that the diamonds are like Germany's printed money after WW1. They are already worth less, so I meant we should decrease use of them as opposed to decreasing their value. Thank you for correcting my error, and I hope this makes sense to everyone reading now.
Does anyone else have opinions on whether a different sort of currency is too far from the vanilla experience? I think it isn't, but Dennari43 thinks it is. It would be nice to have other opinions, as this could completely shape the way the server runs and even possibly determine whether a reset is necessary.
That's actually somewhat terrifyingly creepy.
Took this a while back:
Don't remember who it was exactly, but someone's name was on a sign in the middle of the shrine. You can go there probably and find out who was behind it, or at least who built that shrine. It's possible they started this whole thing.
I don't see how changing the currency would be taking us too far away from vanilla. We're already using CraftyCoins; I'm just suggesting making them more valuable and making diamonds less valuable. All we would be doing is creating an extremely similar system of trading based off of the old one, which I don't see as making us an economy system server. It's like a way of resetting the economy without resetting the server.
I believe (if I remember correctly) that I made a couple of suggestions in past posts on how to fix the economy, such as changing the currency so what everyone's using right now isn't as valuable, letting the current system pay itself out over time, etc. What about CraftyCoins? Why don't we try using those as currency? Maybe we could limit the amount of person-to-person trading and create a server shop with more manageable currency.
Basically, what I see is happening right now is that there's free money being made. Money is only valuable if there's a limited quantity, and currently people can make infinite diamonds. So, let's make currency that isn't infinite and exploitable.
You could argue that people will still want to use diamonds as currency because of the many things you can make with it, but diamonds really aren't that valuable in the sense that we have mending now, and people don't have to keep making OP gear. I personally only use diamonds at the trading post for the most part. It shouldn't be that hard to set up a new system.
I agree 100% with iDogeTwinkie, Dannysharks, and sknup. There must be some other way to fix the economy than destroying these builds that people have spent hours on. As much as I love this server, I've been wondering if I would be able to keep going after a reset, just knowing that whatever progress I make could be wiped out at any time. A server reset should only be done if it is absolutely 200% necessary.
For me, it's not about the wealth--I mean, I only have one diamond block to my name. It's about the builds:
I'm sure there are many of these sorts of detailed builds on the server--I mean, take a look at sknup's screenshots, for Pete's sake! We should think extremely carefully before wiping out these builds and ruining this artwork, which has taken hours upon hours to make.
If we remove the possibility of furthering the messed-up economy (e.g. removing the jeweler, not giving out spawn eggs anymore, etc.) and implement new ideas, isn't it possible that the economy will gradually right itself again as people continue to pay out what they've saved up?
I just don't see the need to destroy builds to fix the economy. Maybe a more gradual fix is in order as opposed to just deleting everything.
I also agree that a server-wide, not forum-wide, poll is in order, and it should run for at least a week in order to give everyone a chance to take it. Imagine coming back after a few days' absence to find your entire base gone, and everyone knew about it except you! D:
I understand everyone's concerned about the economy, and your concerns are perfectly reasonable. I just don't see why we have to destroy our builds in order to fix it. I agree 100% with Yelloms:
I get what you mean; however, to me anyway, the suspenseful thrill of being raided at anytime and trying to prevent it, is what makes survival fun. But having your base wiped out because of something you have no control over is soul crushing.
Why even work to make your base the best it can be if you know it'll just be wiped out? If it were wiped out by a raider, no problem--gg, you found the base, hope you enjoyed! But just a massive wipe-out for everyone, no skill or searching involved...I know a lot of people on this thread seem to be in favor of it (maybe they don't have good in-progress bases they've been working on and want to finish?), but to me such a reset is absolutely mind-boggling, especially if it's not critical to making the map itself actually work.
There must be a better way to fix the economy. Can't we be a little more creative? If you want to start fresh because you're bored with your current base, go ahead and move somewhere else, but I really don't want to lose my base because other people have lots of money... :'( Can't we just change or remove villager trades, or create a different kind of currency that everyone would agree upon? Something? :(
The forums took me longer to join. I have been on the server itself since early August.
Wait...are we talking completely resetting the server to a default landscape so everyone loses their bases? 'Cuz if that's the case, I'm legit terrified right now. My basemates and I are working really hard on our base and would be crushed if we had to start from scratch. This has taken months. :'( Isn't there some other way to readjust the economy than destroying our hard work? Or am I understanding wrong how a reset works?