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We had this policy before you came along however it did not work at all. We have seen a bigger chance of changing their way with purchasing alts. I will not be wasting more of my little time watching somebody who I already caught hacking who is more cautious the second time around. I don't think you understand how much harder it is getting somebody again the second time around. They come back more seasoned of a hacker. I think you need to put yourself in our shoes .

@_Confederacy_ They come back on Alts.

They use VPNs

They do and we spot them out all the time very easily, and it is even more annoying. Having to make sure a player is another is incredibly annoying. It is very tedious and it does in fact waste a lot of time just to make sure they are who we think they are

@_Haxington_ As I said before, not everyone can afford to buy multiple Minecraft accounts

That is their own fault for fucking up, not ours.

@_Haxington_ Some hacks/cheats are easier to pull off than others, so any noob could use them. (Example: Glitches, Fly, X-Ray, No Shadows, etc) Maybe only those people should be unbanned while those with speed/pvp hacks should not

No thanks, nobody with hacks will be pardoned in my book. The day that happens you will see me quit being admin. I don't allow any hack at all here. Maybe in your eyes as a normal player they seem easier however once again you have not put yourself in our shoes. Catching somebody slip a second time can be much more annoying and tedious since they will be more careful.

@_Haxington_ It is unfair to those few players that are truly sorry for their actions

If they truly felt that way they shouldn't have done it in the first place. 30 bucks is 30 bucks, and hey, they chose to get their account banned on this server not us, why they hell should we feel sorry for them?

@_Haxington_ As far as the ecoonomy goes, their items are all destroyed usually before they get in circulation

So you think, but what about those who take longer to catch than others? The amount of normal players who I see get banned eventually is too high. I have known many long time players who have been caught and it is even more frustrating because they get away with it when the proof is there but I don't have the physical evidence. At times it has taken me several months to bust a single player who is hacking but I cannot actually catch them. You yourself may peacefully play along the server but the staff here also tries to enjoy playing too. Yes we did give up our freedom essentially when we started out as staff however is it not messed up to not have a moment to spare to ourselves?

TL;DR : I quit the day we pardon hackers, hackers ruin the economy, waste admin time, and we don't care about the cost of an alt account.

You have to realize all of the admins are adults and have many responsibilities to do besides run the server, and we are not able to be on all day every day spending each second watching people. Adding this to our many responsibilities is not worth it whatsoever, and will do more harm to the server than good. Yes we do have moderators who help us out quite a lot when we cannot be on however it is impossible to toss this all to them when it comes to catching hackers. We do have wonderful moderators who we choose to be able to catch people however at times we must approve of it first. It is incredibly easy to say "yes go ahead ban them its yours" however we have the weight of making sure it was the right choice, the moderators do not have as much experience as the admins. There are times when admins must review the evidence and come to a consensus before banning somebody for good. Aside from this spending more of our time on the server watching them, we see it as more harm done because they may ruin the economy heavily before we catch them. Any hack is as good grounds as another to be permanently banned, if you do one hack you do another. Once you start hacking you don't just particularly do that single one. And once you hack, you don't see the game the same way you did as before. Hacking will remain a permanent ban on CraftyMynes.

@Nysic This shirt but mine should say admin on the back :D

You mean badmin

It goes away, just like the vip+ goes away

The server is back up

I've had enough of reading this. You aren't contributing anything at all and are just doing personal attacks. At first I was genuinely concerned with however you have not presented any actual evidence. I am also locking the thread due irrelevancy. You are welcome to report the staff but please come with proof and logical arguments; I myself will be glad to handle anything wrong with the staff members as I see fit just like how we admins always have.

@gilbertboys It would be totally fine if you reset the server tonight, it's not fun playing when you know there is no point.

The admins and Crafty still have things to go over first

We don't plan on adding any non vanilla trades. And part of the economy was really messed up from the shulkers since we had no idea how OP mojang was going to make them. Go to the end and get shulker shells .

@jamlbon Not that's it's likely I'm buying but what is the cost per chunk ??

That is something @CraftyMyner has to decide on, I'm sure he will let you guys know as soon as he possibly can.

@Tez1010 Firstly thank you for organising this. I am sure it is not what you want to be doing at this busy time of year.

Two questions
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Will you keep the old map open for the time being like with legacy?
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And what did Nysic mean when he said this

"No bases will be transferred, the option is there to buy them to have personally"

Do you mean you can have a copy of that part of the map to put in your own sp map?
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We will not be making another legacy server this time around

What he meant by that is that you can purchase the base by having Crafty give it to you at a rate of chunks per base, so you can have it yourself and be able to view it once we reset the map.