@TopsNeverStops I have seen other instances like this happen, but quite frankly, I don't have the time to dig through months of logs, so here's my personal example.

Which is precisely why this post will likely do nothing. The amount of garbage we'd have to bring up AND justify while people insert their drama every other second is unfathomable.

Suggestions for a fix, anyone, or are we still pretending this isn't an issue? I know @TopsNeverStops has been here a long time, so if you don't believe me after three months, ask him. Or anyone else who's posted here in the past three hours.

@SharpSerac You and I aren't on good terms either, but I'm glad we can put our junk aside to deal with issues in the community,

This is the type of conversation I'm aiming for. Mature and controlled.

Thank you :)

@Blackened_Dawn Thank you for being calm and not blowing up in our face. :) Appreciate it.

@Blackened_Dawn I know that. I am just using it comparatively to show that people care about the subject.

@R4iscool1 This post (https://forum.craftymynes.com/6425-overhaul-the-wishing-fountain/0/ ) received about 350 in nearly two weeks, and it was a suggestion that many people were actively chatting about.

We are now at 302 views for this post.

Just saying.

@R4iscool1 Sorry can you quote where I banned you from saying harassment ?
I don't take kindly to being slandered like that and I don't see it in the screenshots.
If I didn't can you please retract your statement that I did.

I explicitly said no to you in the 3rd screenshot when you said can I not say Harassment and said only if you try reference previous staff issues and try cause trouble.

Read the last part of the last screenshot.

@R4iscool1 Post the chat logs if you wish, I never once stated that you were banned from saying harassment in chat.

Ahem. Read above.

@R4iscool1 So far I count 7 players, on a server which receives over a hundred a day. That's not a representative sample, as I said people with issues are the ones more likely to be vocal.

This post has received 290 views in 2 hours.

@R4iscool1 I assume that for every situation brought up, it will just be thrown down without any thought, but since you asked for expamples, I'd encourage everyone who sees this as an issue to post their own situations in which staff has done less than what's expected of them. Big things, not the human errors we all make.

R4, one example I give you is the fact that @SnowProper , the owner of two similar servers to CM, is no longer allowed to say the word "harassment" in general chat. This is because he mentioned staff harassing players when they enforced rules in certain situations. So the solution is... forcing him to never say that word again and threatening him with a ban rather than asking what he finds so unfair?

That's just one case. My three months, as you said, aren't enough to have lots to back this up, but it's very obvious to me that something needs to change.

@Naidae I don't have a solution; I'm just one person. I'm also interested in hearing suggestions from everyone! :)

@Zane_Truesdale I have zero issues with the rules. It's the enforcement that is often an issue.

Also, chat ain't family friendly. Just saying. XD (I get what you mean though no worries <3)

@iclutchHD The first three paragraphs were addressed in my last message above ^.

As for "Please don't give me the crap of" being rude... I'm not sure what to say to that, I guess. I don't see how that can be taken as rude. R4 acted as if I thought we should "offer cookies to hackers", and I prefer not to be treated like an idiot.

Please don't make offense of what I mean to be peaceful and harmless discussion.