Zane isn't my alt, my alt actually have more ticks than my main at the moment but I don't see this going anywhere. Since either doubt if we both live streamed playing together it would convince you.

Yes every single IP on the Internet is publicly accessible if that's what you are asking. They follow a pretty simple formula after all, every one of the 4 billion or so.

@Grassling @R4iscool1 We cannot all see players ips when they log on but we can see everything said in global chat (Venes name)

How does that make a difference?
If I understand correctly the majority of the arguments here have hinged on the idea it's public info, just like an IP address and email are.
People have a right to the privacy of their own info.

@HaloNest a person's personal info is there right alone. If they choose to deny it to anyone with or without reason that's their rights. In real life, no one has the right to your personal data either, every site you sign up for legally is required to have you consent to them collecting identifying data. If someone is uncomfortable about someone they don't know calling them by their first name then they have the right to ask them to stop. As grassling was told to do, when we asked him to stop calling staff by name.
People have a right to privacy and given the harassment we have had on this server before, we are especially aware of that here.

Like I've said before would you be comfortable if we posted you emails and IP addresses which are also public info?

@Ealdwine_Drasax @BaronBattleBread, well said. This in mind I would agree that staff protect the server from all sorts of crap. However, I would personally have seen Staff act differently or use the rules differently. If you are going to enforce the rules you should do it with out exception. I have seen staff use the rules for their benefit. I would feel more comfortable if the rules were enforced equally on everyone. Which in my eyes are not. I personally agree with you, I think our ADMINS and staff do a fine job when protecting us from perdition on the server and I thank you. It is just sometimes you see something that is not justified and no one stands up for anyone. When you do you get your a** handed to you.

Can you give some examples of where you think rules were used to staff advantage or applied unequally.
We can't change if you don't give us the how and why you think we were wrong in a situation.

@NerdieBirdieYT As nearly every staff member as mentioned, if this thread turns into arguments over whether the word "slander" was used in the correct legal fashion and crap like that, then everyone may as well stop now.

If you have something to ADD to this discussion (as nearly all the posts since last night have), then feel free.

No offense but personally I don't see how someone insisting using real life info isn't harassment adds to the discussion.
We don't use your personally indemnifying if no in game and we expect the same respect back, whether he let's other people he's very close with or not use it, is besides the point. An IP address is technically public domain so is an email but people wouldn't comfortable if we revealed that however. The fact that the info may be available publicly has no bearing on whether you should be allowed to refer to someone by their IRL info without their permission.
It's turned from issues with staff communication into grassing was banned unfairly. Which doesn't help with the threads stayed purpose.

@HaloNest My nick is HaloNest but people call me "gab"
I don't see the math in the user name thingy

If your uncomfortable with people doing that please contact us privately.

@Grassling @Dennari43 you say we need to stop taking jabs at staff but you explicitly just called me an angry kid which I see as a jab in itself. My purpose in this thread is not to appeal my ban as i've stated it was only brought up (not even by me) to support the argument at hand. I simply asked for the reason I was actually banned but i'm just told its a bunch of little things. When staff were addressed with in this forum originally by berdie i believe he also said the problem was a bunch of things but he was asked to explain in order to effectively communicate an understanding. Maybe you could try do so yourself unless you just decided to communicate in a conversation you lack knowledge of and are therefore not defending an argument but instead a side.(staff) i want my opinion to be heard without "backlash" because if staff members expect respect they should be exemplary.

Staff have the right not to be harassed.
You do not have the right to use their personal first names regardless of whether other people use it when you have been told to stop.
I'm sure you don't have strangers on the Internet refer to you by your RL name.
Does that clear why you were banned?

Staff can only do as best as possible, we offer a free service to the server and pout hundreds of hours in and we do make mistakes that happens but that doesn't mean we are unfit for staff.

@HaloNest I'm on staff on this one, but there's only one thing I don't get...

Why do you keep arguing like that mate?
Sometimes feels like you argue just for the sake of arguing..

Just responding to his correction that's all.

@SnowProper Going back to Youtube videos now, I think I at least showed my case against R4 saying there is no evidence of the staff doing this. If you need the last word Dawn, go ahead, my job is done.

Yes you posted images that proved I did not forbid you saying harassment ever when I simply asked you to stop referencing incidents in chat.

@SnowProper sorry, I am still on this part, but it bothers me, because it is a generally made mistake. aka a pet peeve of mine.

just because the definition of slander says that in some cases it can be written, you said you do not like your character be the slandered. which then incurs the legal definition of slander and libel. if you had just used slander in a normal sentence, without reference to you being personally attacked, you would be correct. but, since you used it in a way to state it as a matter that you were being Defamed, it then becomes its legal definition. Here is your case for that then...

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/differences-between-defamation-slander-and-libel

English is tricky, especially when you speak legal english.

Slandered is the verb not the noun, to be Slandered.
Thus I quite Google
slander
ˈslɑːndə/Submit
verb
past tense: slandered; past participle: slandered
make false and damaging statements about (someone).
"they were accused of slandering the head of state"
The legal argument is utterly irrelevant to the meaning of the word.

@SnowProper 1st off R4, slander is spoken, libel is written. It would be libel, not slander, and the 5th screenshot said if I say the word harassment again, I can be punished for it. clear as day.

Actually slander can be used in any context, legally in some places slander is only written but if you look at the definitions it can be used otherwise.

Yes, if you violate the rules with the usage yes you can be punished for it.
Just like any other player, If I start making false statements about someone harassing me that harm them I can be banned.