@Quartz_King its broken XD

I only see 4 people that think so. Removing the Villagers is only going to anger people, and drive the worth of diamonds and emeralds sky high, essentially making the rich richer. The economy is at a healthy balance where people that are new can get rich, and the rich can provide services for the newer players to get resources. It's not broken, it just seems that way. Plus, if the worth of diamonds and etc went that high, it's cause sort of a reverse inflation and probably cause the economy to colapse for a while. I will state again; If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

@OtherGreenGamer I only see 4 people that think so. Removing the Villagers is only going to anger people, and drive the worth of diamonds and emeralds sky high, essentially making the rich richer. The economy is at a healthy balance where people that are new can get rich, and the rich can provide services for the newer players to get resources. It's not broken, it just seems that way. Plus, if the worth of diamonds and etc went that high, it's cause sort of a reverse inflation and probably cause the economy to colapse for a while. I will state again; If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

I agree with this, if you got people who "easily became rich" and new players who can't, this would mean a disadvantage for the new players

@_Drachenzorn_ And its artificial because the server provide us these villagers. I'm saying, if you want to trade with villagers then make your own villager trading system, vanilla way. At least you sweat on building it not spoon-fed by the server. Or trade with real players, which I initially point out.

I have my own villagers and zombie spawner to get them. I still enjoy the villager ones though, cause it gives me a reason to hang out in spawn, which also means I socialize with other players. And the items sold by the spawn villagers are often not sold regularly by players. Do you want us to just wait for someone to open a shop for lore items, iron gear, beginner stuff, and every last item the villagers sell? And not every single person on the server can find and have access to villagers apart from spawn. Getting rid of the villagers will make it harder for new players to get started and the gap between poor and rich WILL grow. This sounds way too familiar to other threads that ended up locked because people wouldn't stop complaining. This is not a generic, plain server, this is CraftyMynes. Why change what so many people love. If you want something less "artificial," go play on an anarchy server.

@Cileklim Pros:

-Players will interact more with each other instead of grinding items for villagers.

-Players will have to get their own villagers, closer to survival and more fun.

Cons:

-HUGE gap between rich players and new & current players.

-Emeralds and diamonds worth will increase which means rich players will become richer and poor players, well, poorer.

-Players "love" villagers (?) No... just no

-Villagers lets players to earn emeralds which is vital for player trading, so removal of villagers will impact the economy (?)

I like the pros and cons list, it does help show both sides. And I would like to add to your last Cons point about the emerald's impact on the economy. Without the villagers, emeralds will become far less available and shops that sell items based on emerald standards will fail or have to make some extreme changes. People won't be able to afford items in book or food shops because the value of currency will drastically change. The emerald will become more valuable than the diamond possibly and throw the entire currency system off. Book shops wouldn't be able to sell enchanted books as well because they themselves won't be as able to afford their own books from their librarians, as emeralds will be much harder to get. (I'm talking specifically about the jeweler trades on this point). We're not just talking about little changes here, we're talking about taking a one dollar bill and making it worth something like a fifty dollar bill.

@Cileklim Can we just chill? It's normal for this suggestion to have some heat, but:

This is not how you discuss a suggestion. You know it too.

I do know that. That's why I said it that way. Does none of this thread at all feel similar to you? Cause to me, it feels an awful lot like the thread where someone complained about how op the new wool villager was. You know how that ended?
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Go read the last few comments before it was locked.

Or the suggested clay villager thread that was locked and denied because it was the same argument as the wool villager.

This is just another of the same argument, only starting with the opposing viewpoint of less gifts in mind.

All we're doing is complaining about a gift given to us by the admins. They were kind enough to give us so many amazing things, and every time, someone has to complain and tear down their hard work and berate everything they've done for us. Some people don't want that kind of slap in the face towards staff to continue. Again, sorry if I sound upset, I know I come off that way a lot. But I don't see a point in further complaining about the admins' gifts that help most players and are liked by most. It's upsetting to see someone's hard work picked at and picked at until all we're doing is hurting their feelings. Lets please try to end this one (peacefully) before we do that again. I have no quarrel with any of you. This is just what I believe on the subject.

@Dennari43

Does none of this thread at all feel similar to you? Cause to me, it feels an awful lot like the thread where someone complained about how op the new wool villager was. You know how that ended?
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Go read the last few comments before it was locked.

Or the suggested clay villager thread that was locked and denied because it was the same argument as the wool villager.

This is just another of the same argument, only starting with the opposing viewpoint of less gifts in mind.

Nope! It doesn't. This is a different thread about a different suggestion. And if something is wrong, players might and will complain. If you want to see my opinion about that "complain", you can take a look to my posts in said threads.

This is not an argument. This suggestion thread has nothing to do with other suggestions unless indicated by the suggestor, you are simply making it too personal. It's not just "opposition" , think about it. Why would someone oppose something without a reason? Maybe they see a flaw, or something that could be better in a different way! It might or might not get approved, that is the reason of a suggestion; to show a different viewpoint!

@Dennari43 But I don't see a point in further complaining about the admins' gifts that help most players and are liked by most. It's upsetting to see someone's hard work picked at and picked at until all we're doing is hurting their feelings. Lets please try to end this one (peacefully) before we do that again.

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It sounds like you are talking for the whole server. What about the other opinions?

Suggestions are not just about adding new stuff, it's also about polishing what we have, improving it even further. And you are getting out of topic because I don't see anyone complaining or picking at someone's hard work. It sounds like you are mentioning another suggestion thread but as I said, this is a different thread.

What is the thing that you want to end? Why would a suggestion hurt someones feelings?

As the staff member in charge of villagers, im enjoying some popcorn as i watch the back and forth of opinions, facts... ideas. I believe everyone has the right to share their belief of the situation.

As such, i also have the right to not voice my thoughts on the subject just yet. :)

@BaronBattleBread As the staff member in charge of villagers, im enjoying some popcorn as i watch the back and forth of opinions, facts... ideas. I believe everyone has the right to share their belief of the situation.

As such, i also have the right to not voice my thoughts on the subject just yet. :)

Any ETA for the maze's close or any villager changes?