Youve been on the server for a while now so you should know.

Political and other controversial chat issues are not permitted on craftymynes. This is because they cause flaming and trolling.

Venetorem was just enforcing that rule, perhaps he should have given a warning but I'm sure he had told multiple people before you the same thing.
As VIP+ you are expected to know the rules too.

Hi! While I was not online for this event, I think I have a grasp over what went down.

Practice good chat etiquette - Don’t use caps, don’t spam, don’t discuss controversial, sensitive or offensive topics (e.g. sex, sexual identity or preferences, race, politics, religion, drugs, etc.), no advertising, no links, no trolling. Please only use the minecraft font and English in global chat. Also part of chat etiquette is having an appropriately named character since your name appears on the player list and in chat. If your name is inappropriate you will be asked to change it. You will likely be banned until you do.
The logs are as follows:

[15:18:12] <Timothybot> TRUMP
[15:18:16] <Quartz_King> ayyy
[15:18:18] <Timothybot> u raided me
[15:18:20] <_MasterDragon_> No politics
[15:18:24] <NolanticV5> trump vs hillary
[15:18:28] <SaltyFlubberFish> Don't say that Timothybot
[15:18:31] <Venetorem> stop
[15:18:32] <Quartz_King> who? Timothybot
[15:18:33] <NolanticV5> who going to win
[15:18:33] <_MasterDragon_> No politics in chat
[15:18:38] <Janisdg> trump is thenew Snape....
[15:18:42] <SaltyFlubberFish> Don't say that NolanticV5
[15:18:43] <Venetorem> alright, that's it
[15:18:48] <Julipukki> well, i know YOU will lose soon :)
[15:18:48] <SaltyFlubberFish> Don;t say that Janisdg
[15:18:51] <Timothybot> there was a sign that said trump raided me
[15:18:53] <NolanticV5> ok MasterDragon
[15:18:53] <LordVincent> ban them all
[15:19:03] <SaltyFlubberFish> Timothybot Don't say that
[15:19:04] Kicked Janisdg from the game: 'Reason: chat violations'

Moderating chat can be a tricky thing. The only thing that really works when an topic that is against the rules gets started is drawing a line in the sand and kicking anybody that says something afterwards. While I agree that you are a good player and I don't believe that you intended to go against what Venetorum said, you were the one that continued after he had said to stop.

None of our staff members are power-hungry or enjoy kicking people (it actually tends to be very unpleasant), but it is what we agreed to do when we became staff members to help keep the server running in a manner that is beneficial to all of us!

PS: Get to know Venetorum. He is actually very kind! =D

rnc crushing my bait with kindness

idk
just wanted to say something weird for reactions
ignore me

I would just like to point something out regarding this case. Offenses like this aren't handled on an individual basis, as in, Staff members aren't going to hand out individual warnings to each person that starts breaking the same rule... that would be ridiculous. Let me Explain the Process in motion:

[15:18:12] <Timothybot> TRUMP ----- Rule is Broken
[15:18:16] <Quartz_King> ayyy
[15:18:18] <Timothybot> u raided me
[15:18:20] <_MasterDragon_> No politics ----- First Warning
[15:18:24] <NolanticV5> trump vs hillary ----- Rule Is broken again by another person
[15:18:28] <SaltyFlubberFish> Don't say that Timothybot ---- Second Warning
[15:18:31] <Venetorem> stop ----- Third Warning and Official warning by a staff member
[15:18:32] <Quartz_King> who? Timothybot
[15:18:33] <NolanticV5> who going to win ---- Rule is Broken a third time, 2nd time by NolanticV5
[15:18:33] <_MasterDragon_> No politics in chat ---- fourth Warning (This is officially out of hand)
[15:18:38] <Janisdg> trump is thenew Snape.... --- Rule is Broken a fourth time by you....

You Ignored no less than four warnings to not mention political nonsense in chat. If staff members are telling other people to stop breaking the rules, what in the world would make you think that chiming in and contributing to the rule breaking with your own 2 cents would be appropriate?

Just because a player isn't a staff member doesn't mean you get to ignore them and continue to break rules. Most issues shouldn't require staff intervention at all. If you break a rule and someone calls you out on it, then stop. In this case, if you see a bunch of other players breaking rules and not listening to staff... don't jump in and become part of the problem...

Trump is a presidential candidate in the race in which both candidates have high unfavourability ratings, so to suggest that he doesn't cause controversy or is not a political figure is intellectually dishonest.
He is one of the most political figures on this earth at the moment if not he most. If he isn't then what does qualify as political ?

The mention of either candidate is enough to spark an argument which is what we are trying to avoid, this isn't a debate forum. Its a game, take your political discussion elsewhere. The rules are plenty clear on this and it should be well known to any regular our stance on political chat.
If someone brought up Hillary especially in comparison like above it would have been an equal offense.
There is absolutely no need to issue an apology for punishing someone who violates the rules nor does it need an excuse. Thats how rule enforcement works.

Overall this should not have been handled differently, plenty of warning was given and I suggest you reread our rules and ask staff any questions. We have enforced this precedent for over a year now without issue and it's unlikely to change based on your view that it's not correct because frankly from an objective stance its the best position.
Also a kick is warning in of itself, so its a pretty moot point.

Even if we took away the political aspect of "Trump" it still falls under the controversial topic rule, as he is the center of a lot of controversy.
It was just a kick, not a ban. No reason to raise your blood pressure over it.

I have a complaint about this thread, I've had enough of it.

@MrStupendous Really? So if I were to say "Putin reminds me of a monkey?" That is making me a target for kicking? That is socially dishonest. There is no reason with even the most rudimentary logic that would allow such a reaction.

As for my Intellectual Dishonesty, How dare you! Trump is a political figure as of right now. However lets use the Noun part right now. If I say "Trump is the new Snape" that is strictly not political and anyone who says so is a darn fool. Lets break it down....

Trump noun context: Donald Trump
is: stating a state of being
the: Following is
New: saying latest or as or like
Snape: A character who is part of a children's novel.

OH MY its so political. lets look at the definition of political: of or relating to the government or the public affairs of a country.

Does this statement say anything about a government? does it say anything about our public affairs of a country. NO it states a neutral and primarily objective comment. To say "Trump" is strictly political is intellectual dishonesty.

I could see if it said. "Trumps a horrible presidential candidate" or "Trump is a jerk" "Trump sucks ass." whatever they say. Same for Hillary. as for the statement that has caused this I would venture to say it does not break the rules of the server and an official apology should be given to the player.

From the worried mind of a fellow CraftyMyner.

Of course that would earn you a kick, giving your opinion and any negative comparison about a political figure is against our rules for the reasons mentioned above.
As we have said, that is not allowed in our chat due to the problems it causes.

Sorry you are simply ignoring the actual meaning and the context it was within. It is completely intellectually dishonest to claim that Trump is not a political or controversial figure.
You are comparing a political figure to what could be considered a negative light, that is what a political statement is.
As I said we don't allow politics in our chat in any format or controversial topics for that matter which Trump falls under.

Politics is far from just related to the government, you are naive if you believe that it can be reduced to anything so simple. It covers a range of subjects which Trump falls under.
He is not strictly political but in the vast majority of cases including this one he is, and that is what we are concerned with hence why we do not allow him or Hillary to be mentioned full stop.

You would venture to say but you would be incorrect, since as I have pointed out yet again.
We do not allow this kind of discussion in the chat full stop, it doesn't matter whether you consider it as political or not. Thats a moot point, warnings were delivered and they were acted upon. In no way can that be considered abuse.

@MrStupendous No, because if we allow this, what else can be controversial? There is no reason to have kicked him. HE DIDN'T Break the rules. IF we are talking about controversial then lets talk about base raiding, and selling coords of a player. Many would say that raiding and selling base coords should not be allowed. You are stealing someones work. Yet we talk about it all the time on the server. The topic of Controversial is about the society and CULTURE. So currently YOU are all BIASED.

Staff have the discretion to determine whether something is sufficiently controversial or not. Its built into the rules and we have the right to modify those at any time to cover something we feel the need to be covered.
The controversial rule also explicitly applies to chat not the actual gameplay.
It seems extremely likely that you are trolling when you make accusations that we are biased with no basis.

I'm sure Trump's 3 hairs appreciates how someone defends his name on a video game forum.

Locked.