Meanwhile, Sharp and his alt (and the rest of Team Eye) could learn the ways of not destroying other people's buildings. That way the server would be more active than it is now. I personally don't see the fun in what you guys do, and when I was on last, there were barely anyone on. Maybe this "renovation service" is the cause of it? Could you guys seriously think about what you're doing and how it's affecting the server? If you respond to this, and I know you will, I would please ask you to answer with zero snark and some seriousness. All I want is a discussion, no one here needs to get heated. Play nice for a bit, please?

@MasaruCyri Meanwhile, Sharp and his alt (and the rest of Team Eye) could learn the ways of not destroying other people's buildings. That way the server would be more active than it is now. I personally don't see the fun in what you guys do, and when I was on last, there were barely anyone on. Maybe this "renovation service" is the cause of it? Could you guys seriously think about what you're doing and how it's affecting the server? If you respond to this, and I know you will, I would please ask you to answer with zero snark and some seriousness. All I want is a discussion, no one here needs to get heated. Play nice for a bit, please?

Unfortunately some people take a lot longer to mature than others. Some never do. Not that griefing in itself is immature, but don't expect any peaceful, legitimate discussions here.

Sorry to see the Harvestar base go, those statues are a beauty! Best of luck as you all move forward.

@NerdieBirdieYT I really think that eating children is a better modest proposal

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@MasaruCyri Meanwhile, Sharp and his alt (and the rest of Team Eye) could learn the ways of not destroying other people's buildings. That way the server would be more active than it is now. I personally don't see the fun in what you guys do, and when I was on last, there were barely anyone on. Maybe this "renovation service" is the cause of it? Could you guys seriously think about what you're doing and how it's affecting the server? If you respond to this, and I know you will, I would please ask you to answer with zero snark and some seriousness. All I want is a discussion, no one here needs to get heated. Play nice for a bit, please?

just because you can't see the fun in something doesn't mean it isn't fun. newsflash: the world doesn't conform to your views. that's something best learned early on in life, bucko.

we are free to do whatever we want within the rules of the server, and this is what we do. we enjoy doing it, and we're not going to stop doing it. people join a raiding/griefing server and then complain about getting raided/griefed that's a fucking OMEGALUL if i've ever seen one before.

snark is fun, so you're getting snark, buckaroo.

@NerdieBirdieYT Unfortunately some people take a lot longer to mature than others. Some never do. Not that griefing in itself is immature, but don't expect any peaceful, legitimate discussions here.

Sorry to see the Harvestar base go, those statues are a beauty! Best of luck as you all move forward.

you know it's actually quite funny, i've had legitimate, peaceful discussions with some of nerdnation's members (and a good amount of general craftymynes' players). not just about minecraft, but about life in general as well. they have all said something along the lines of "wow, i didn't know you were just a normal guy." it's funny to see the twisted and warped view someone has on you when they haven't really and truly interacted personally with you. you seem to have fallen victim to that same mentality, nerdie. i openly invite you to dm me sometime on discord (if you don't have me blocked, that is), we can talk and just have a normal discussion about life and whatever goes on inside it, and i can guarantee you i'm not the kind of person you make me out to be

@MasaruCyri Meanwhile, Sharp and his alt (and the rest of Team Eye) could learn the ways of not destroying other people's buildings. That way the server would be more active than it is now. I personally don't see the fun in what you guys do, and when I was on last, there were barely anyone on. Maybe this "renovation service" is the cause of it? Could you guys seriously think about what you're doing and how it's affecting the server? If you respond to this, and I know you will, I would please ask you to answer with zero snark and some seriousness. All I want is a discussion, no one here needs to get heated. Play nice for a bit, please?

Did you not read the post? We're offering to NOT blow up their builds, they should consider themselves lucky we're being this merciful. Other builds such as Strangers Company didn't have this opportunity. And I must admit, Harvestar always has nice builds, and this one is no different, and it'd be a shame if this one had to be ruined due to their own ignorance.

@MasaruCyri Meanwhile, Sharp and his alt (and the rest of Team Eye) could learn the ways of not destroying other people's buildings. That way the server would be more active than it is now. I personally don't see the fun in what you guys do, and when I was on last, there were barely anyone on. Maybe this "renovation service" is the cause of it? Could you guys seriously think about what you're doing and how it's affecting the server? If you respond to this, and I know you will, I would please ask you to answer with zero snark and some seriousness. All I want is a discussion, no one here needs to get heated. Play nice for a bit, please?

Actually the server has been more active since they've been raiding and griefing people lately. You just wouldn't know since you aren't particularly active yourself.

@Inyashi Actually the server has been more active since they've been raiding and griefing people lately. You just wouldn't know since you aren't particularly active yourself.

Why should raiding/griefing make people active? lol ? thats suicide

@MaggiAusDaKann Why should raiding/griefing make people active? lol ? thats suicide

Before the raid on SC I never saw them on. Now I see Sofa on all the time working on their underground base. Builds get stagnant so it's up to the raiders to give them their mojo back.

@MaggiAusDaKann Why should raiding/griefing make people active? lol ? thats suicide

You should be able to solve this.

I see two sides to this, really.

1. It's a raiding/griefing server. We should all be prepared to lose our builds at any given time; it's the nature of the beast. That's the whole point! You build, you get raided, you start over :) Play smart, play safe, and you'll most likely have a good time. It was a nice town, but it's time to go.

2. Whether joking or not, I find it in poor taste to somewhat mock the people that put tons of hours in on building this town. Extorting them for payment that you are definitely not owed just seems wrong. I personally don't see how constantly raining on players' fun is actually entertaining, but different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

Legit question, doesn't raiding and/or griefing get boring ever? Like, do you folks work on your own builds and such, or is your time on CM solely dedicated to raiding?

Also, @Naidae couldn't the same be said about building too? Not siding with TE but building is arguably as easy to get bored of as raiding- Once you're out of ideas, you're out of ideas- plus this again is CM- like you said, raiding and griefing is open game.

And eventually, the builders have nothing left to build, they're just mainly sitting around nowadays, or end up becoming inactive. Also, if every one of CM didn't raid or grief and it was just building, there would be an unhealthy amount of tranquility and things would get boring, y'know? Nowadays there's very much hardly anything left to do on CM. Most of what's been built has been built. The Economy is severely broken and with structure generation in shambles- messing with any form of data is risky business so a reset is really the only good solution. Plus you know too, griefing isn't entirely a bad thing. Softatroll and good portions of SC weren't active but the griefing of Esepolis actually gave them something to do.

Craftymynes in general hasn't been very full like it has been in the last few months either even if school has been around for most people. With the reasons above, things just got stale man- When measures call people will do things to spice things up.

@GrandpaCarl00 Also, @Naidae couldn't the same be said about building too? Not siding with TE but building is arguably as easy to get bored of as raiding- Once you're out of ideas, you're out of ideas- plus this again is CM- like you said, raiding and griefing is open game.

And eventually, the builders have nothing left to build, they're just mainly sitting around nowadays, or end up becoming inactive. Also, if every one of CM didn't raid or grief and it was just building, there would be an unhealthy amount of tranquility and things would get boring, y'know? Nowadays there's very much hardly anything left to do on CM. Most of what's been built has been built. The Economy is severely broken and with structure generation in shambles- messing with any form of data is risky business so a reset is really the only good solution. Plus you know too, griefing isn't entirely a bad thing. Softatroll and good portions of SC weren't active but the griefing of Esepolis actually gave them something to do.

Craftymynes in general hasn't been very full like it has been in the last few months either even if school has been around for most people. With the reasons above, things just got stale man- When measures call people will do things to spice things up.

@GrandpaCarl00 Well of course it goes both ways, but I was asking them specifically if raiding/griefing ever gets boring because I don't hear or see much in the way of building on their end. I think you took my question the wrong way-- I think raiders and griefers are a necessary part of the server and without them, the "survival" aspect gets taken down a peg. I was seriously just curious if they ever got bored with it; if builders get bored, I would think griefers would too from time to time.

and @darktyui Thank you for actually answering my question! It's appreciated :)

24 hours remain for harvestar to make any sort of agreement to pay, make a payment, or pay off the entire debt. If none of those conditions are met, and no attempts to make or discuss such payments are had, then renovation will begin the minute the clock strikes 5pm.

I will be live streaming the final countdown and the inevitable renovation on my twitch channel that you can find by clicking here or by searching my username on twitch if you would like to tune in and see! There will be a tour before the clock strikes 5, so I will start the stream around 4:30pm pst.

See you there buckos