There is no need to make to threads about the same thing...

enderman farms Works great for me 30 xp in like 5 min if that

I responded to the other post you made. Try not to double post.

Pigmen / Wither Skeleton Farms are difficult. Guardian and Enderman farms work just fine:

https://forum.craftymynes.com/5157-endermen-grinder/

If you are having issues, it's your design / your understanding of spawn mechanics. In general spawner-less grinders are more difficult / time consuming to make.

Making a Grinder from a spawner is in general easier. Blazes give the most xp per mob. Cave spider spawners are the most plentiful. Zombie is arguably the easiest/quickest.

All grinders present their own unique challenges and there is a big difference between a bad and good design.

@pand1024 Pigmen / Wither Skeleton Farms are difficult. Guardian and Enderman farms work just fine:

https://forum.craftymynes.com/5157-endermen-grinder/

If you are having issues, it's your design / your understanding of spawn mechanics. In general spawner-less grinders are more difficult / time consuming to make.

Making a Grinder from a spawner is in general easier. Blazes give the most xp per mob. Cave spider spawners are the most plentiful. Zombie is arguably the easiest/quickest.

All grinders present their own unique challenges and there is a big difference between a bad and good design.

Spawn rates for guardian grinders have been messed up since 1.11 -- I know quite a bit about them and have tried 3 different designs so far and nada... spawn rates are only good for about 5 minutes after a server refresh. I wouldn't recommend building them on a multiplayer server.

That being said, if you have different or more knowledge on how to make a guardian grinder work as normal on CM, I will gladly pay you for said information! :o

@Naidae

@pand1024 @Naidae

I'll take a look at this ,but from what I'm seeing, gnembon is saying that the cross-shape design is only spitting out 19k guardians per hour, with a 25% loss rate, of that. I built his design to the letter and we're only getting MAYBE 100 spawns an hour... MAYBE, mostly likely, half of that.

Skelly Grinders are prob best next farm

@DoppyRex Skelly Grinders are prob best next farm

Blazes drop more xp per mob, so I would argue they would be a better xp source than skeletons.
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Experience#Experience_amounts_by_source

@Naidae I'll take a look at this ,but from what I'm seeing, gnembon is saying that the cross-shape design is only spitting out 19k guardians per hour, with a 25% loss rate, of that. I built his design to the letter and we're only getting MAYBE 100 spawns an hour... MAYBE, mostly likely, half of that.

I guess we can consider this issue "fixed" xP?
https://forum.craftymynes.com/880-the-source-of-our-lag

Mojang went too far in fixing the issue; the "fix" mixed with mob capping in CM, makes for terrible spawn rates, which makes for a very sad Nai. D:

I think you'll be fine voting 4 times a day.

Also I just found out how to build an op wither skeleton farm

@ShadowHunter7_ Is a 16x16 overworld gold farm allowed

No overworld gold farms are permitted.

If I ever make a gold farm, it would be for the rotten flesh that the pigmen drop.