There is no need to make to threads about the same thing...

enderman farms Works great for me 30 xp in like 5 min if that

I responded to the other post you made. Try not to double post.

Pigmen / Wither Skeleton Farms are difficult. Guardian and Enderman farms work just fine:

https://forum.craftymynes.com/5157-endermen-grinder/

If you are having issues, it's your design / your understanding of spawn mechanics. In general spawner-less grinders are more difficult / time consuming to make.

Making a Grinder from a spawner is in general easier. Blazes give the most xp per mob. Cave spider spawners are the most plentiful. Zombie is arguably the easiest/quickest.

All grinders present their own unique challenges and there is a big difference between a bad and good design.

@pand1024 Pigmen / Wither Skeleton Farms are difficult. Guardian and Enderman farms work just fine:

https://forum.craftymynes.com/5157-endermen-grinder/

If you are having issues, it's your design / your understanding of spawn mechanics. In general spawner-less grinders are more difficult / time consuming to make.

Making a Grinder from a spawner is in general easier. Blazes give the most xp per mob. Cave spider spawners are the most plentiful. Zombie is arguably the easiest/quickest.

All grinders present their own unique challenges and there is a big difference between a bad and good design.

Spawn rates for guardian grinders have been messed up since 1.11 -- I know quite a bit about them and have tried 3 different designs so far and nada... spawn rates are only good for about 5 minutes after a server refresh. I wouldn't recommend building them on a multiplayer server.

That being said, if you have different or more knowledge on how to make a guardian grinder work as normal on CM, I will gladly pay you for said information! :o

@Naidae

@pand1024 @Naidae

I'll take a look at this ,but from what I'm seeing, gnembon is saying that the cross-shape design is only spitting out 19k guardians per hour, with a 25% loss rate, of that. I built his design to the letter and we're only getting MAYBE 100 spawns an hour... MAYBE, mostly likely, half of that.

Skelly Grinders are prob best next farm

@DoppyRex Skelly Grinders are prob best next farm

Blazes drop more xp per mob, so I would argue they would be a better xp source than skeletons.
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Experience#Experience_amounts_by_source

@Naidae I'll take a look at this ,but from what I'm seeing, gnembon is saying that the cross-shape design is only spitting out 19k guardians per hour, with a 25% loss rate, of that. I built his design to the letter and we're only getting MAYBE 100 spawns an hour... MAYBE, mostly likely, half of that.

I guess we can consider this issue "fixed" xP?
https://forum.craftymynes.com/880-the-source-of-our-lag

Mojang went too far in fixing the issue; the "fix" mixed with mob capping in CM, makes for terrible spawn rates, which makes for a very sad Nai. D:

I think you'll be fine voting 4 times a day.

Also I just found out how to build an op wither skeleton farm

@ShadowHunter7_ Is a 16x16 overworld gold farm allowed

No overworld gold farms are permitted.

If I ever make a gold farm, it would be for the rotten flesh that the pigmen drop.

@DoppyRex Also I just found out how to build an op wither skeleton farm

This has been tried, results are still bad, you could try though

No

@ShadowHunter7_ i will help you fix yours if you have one or are you trying to buy from me

@ShadowHunter7_ Ive been looking at desigbs of guardian farms and shouldnt they produce 3 times more xp than enderman farms

You have to build massive guardian farms to get them to actually spawn, because of the mob capping on the server. While it can be done and used for xp, I would recommend building a blaze farm in the nether. Same xp as guardians, and you are working off an actual spawner. :)

@minesy Compared to grinders, fish farms are incredibly slow for exp. I can get 25 levels within minutes using my enderman grinder.

@ShadowHunter7_ On a popular server like hermitcraft how do they get so good spawn rates when mobcapping is a thing but when there is like 10 pepople on this server there is still bad rates.

Are there bad spawn rates on the server because of mobcapping?

Ia there a way to get good rates same as hermitcraft

Hermitcraft is not popular, nor a public server, it's just a minecraft fiction where youtubers pay enough money to get the best server parameters in term of RAM, plugins amount, host etch.

Let me remind you this is a vanilla server with no anti-lag plugins.
Plus "hermits" live all by each other so 98% of the world is unexplored.
Plus their is a custom world with higher spawners count, it's almost impossible to have so many spawners in such a small area.

@ShadowHunter7_ On a popular server like hermitcraft how do they get so good spawn rates when mobcapping is a thing but when there is like 10 pepople on this server there is still bad rates.

Are there bad spawn rates on the server because of mobcapping?

Ia there a way to get good rates same as hermitcraft

They don't run vanilla, outside of vanilla mob cap bug issues have been fixed by spigot.
If there was something that could be done except loading the render distance we would do it.

Mining nether quartz is a great way to pick up experience and it doesn't depend on lag etc. also, nether quartz is easy to find

If anyone needs to get far out in the end they can tpa to me, I have a warp over 85k away from spawn in the end.

Use your warps