@Pimpcy What about trading or selling or even gifting do you think that should be limited too I know it's a smaller thing to think about but with him and his items being completely protected against everyone els.

Well nysic put is succinctly but I can't see how having items protected warrants a restriction.
It's not like he's a big trader nor does it make really any sense, anyone can protect their items.

This exception makes me think of some scenarios:

If we had an enormous or beautiful base like sknup, would we get protection too? If not so, why him?

Or if a great base is being griefed by hackers like in this situation, shouldn't they get a temporary protection too? Isn't that an immediate threat?

Don't worry I understand that he spent hundreds of hours into his base but It doesn't sound fair at all.

@Cileklim
If we had an enormous or beautiful base like sknup, would we get protection too? If not so, why him?

No. Because you aren't personal friends with the owner whom has been building it with you for 2.5 years.

@Cileklim
Or if a great base is being griefed by hackers like in this situation, shouldn't they get a temporary protection too? Isn't that an immediate threat?

Again circumstances, admins already intervene in the event of hackers griefing bases. Sknup's circumstances are unique.

@R4iscool1 Well nysic put is succinctly but I can't see how having items protected warrants a restriction.
It's not like he's a big trader nor does it make really any sense, anyone can protect their items.

You can't see how having items protected gives an advantage, huh? This is much more advanced than putting your items in a echest, he can store spawners, slime chunks etc. inside which is not really possible with a shulker box or an echest.

His playstyle doesn't make this any fair. No offense @sknup

@Cileklim You can't see how having items protected gives an advantage, huh? This is much more advanced than putting your items in a echest, he can store spawners, slime chunks etc. inside which is not really possible with a shulker box or an echest.

His playstyle doesn't make this any fair. No offense @sknup

Sknup isn't hoarding diamonds or slime chunks or even spawners for that matter. Again this base is the project of CraftyMyner and sknup. The base itself contains nothing really of value past the sheer amount of time put into it.

@Nysic Sknup isn't hoarding diamonds or slime chunks or even spawners for that matter. Again this base is the project of CraftyMyner and sknup. The base itself contains nothing really of value past the sheer amount of time put into it.

So there is nothing inside? This leaves me with only few answers:

1) He only uses iron tools to get the resources he needs to build. No spawners, no diamonds, no grinders, no trading (which does not sound believable.)

2) He also has full or limited access to creative mode to get resources

Maybe instead of acting like hes hiding behind a bubble of safe space, you can take a moment to reflect on the fact that your sole problem is that we managed to stop a group of hackers from destroying years of work.

Its not like he was raided by legit players. Every account that entered his base was caught and banned for hacking. The protection was put up because we couldnt get them all at once, and it was soley to l
Prevent them, and them alone, untill they could all be dealt with. A temporary solution to a potentially long problem.

But you dont care, that we do everything we can to prevent hackers from destroying things. You dont care to read the word "temporary". All you care about is that a cheating punk started a riot last night acting like they were unfairly abused.

So maybe, instead of crying that the world isnt fair, realize that this time, it was. A base was saved, more cheaters were banned, and people get on with their lives.
And if you cant see that, theres nothing more for us to say about it.

@Cileklim You can't see how having items protected gives an advantage, huh? This is much more advanced than putting your items in a echest, he can store spawners, slime chunks etc. inside which is not really possible with a shulker box or an echest.

His playstyle doesn't make this any fair. No offense @sknup

The fact though is he isn't, he rarely trades and the only real value in his base is the beauty, size and time put into it. There's no grinders or slime chunks.
Also until I and the admins online discovered the hackers teleporting into the base despite not finding it legitimately it was completely unprotected like any other base.
What about his playstyle makes this unfair ? He doesn't trade except for essentials, doesn't raid, pvp or grief.
Nevermind the fact it's temporary until we can be sure we got all the hackers.

I would like to state the following that in my opinion solves all past and present issue. CRAFTY stated the most and best answer. Its craftys base and sknup builds the majority. So the land of sknup is really crafty base so protection is warranted. To solve part 2 is simple promote sknup to mod or admin. Then no one can say anything.

I like humfry's idea In no way were we trying no nitpick or push at the situation to complain. I myself had no idea about the hackers or last nights quarrel I was concerned over the issue of who sknup actually is to the community or how much advantage he could of had as an average player. I quit replying here for a bit because people were getting defensive and shooting down harmless suggestions. Personally I'm not too worried over the topic anymore but other uninformed players may be wary.

I agree with humfry, if he is important enough to warrant his base protected you should promote him.

@_Confederacy_ I agree with humfry, if he is important enough to warrant his base protected you should promote him.

um... I can agree with that I guess?

@humfrydog I would like to state the following that in my opinion solves all past and present issue. CRAFTY stated the most and best answer. Its craftys base and sknup builds the majority. So the land of sknup is really crafty base so protection is warranted. To solve part 2 is simple promote sknup to mod or admin. Then no one can say anything.

No. There is a process to becoming staff and it'll be adhered too.

i tried being staff before its not something i would want again its not for me

I think the staff disclosing it as they did here is enough. No need to force a status on someone to meet the rules in place. I do agree though that the player base deserves to know and understand exceptions to the rule especially if this was something that was considered back in 1.8. Crafty's response shows he is still trying to keep some adherence to the rule when he took Sknup's base although Sknup's status puts him in a rare spot as an in-betweener from gods and mortals which I envy lol.

I don't think this is a real issue unless Sknup was using the place to shelter himself and his loot to give him an advantage over the other players - which I haven't ever observed.

The whole situation is bull, it defeats the perpose of "dont be a wuss, there is no land claiming" aspect of the server, valuable to important people or not, everything that people build is important to the builder so if it runs on the level of value to someone then everyone deserves it cause everyone values their hard work regardless over the rank of helped cause we are all players.

Its all favoritism