That type of rank would defeat the purpose of a survival server imo, better to leave the judgement on the players to see who they can or cant trust through experience with said person overtime as it has been since the beginning.

@FieryPhoenix64 Oh right. Couldnt you have 2 separate things, with rank as a float/int/whatever and peacefulness as a boolean? Then if a player had vip and peaceful, then it would show up as something like [VIP][Peaceful]<Playername>

i dont think it is possible cause of how minecraft teams feature works

Also, on the philosophical side, who defines who is and isn't peaceful? One player might think you're peaceful, and another might hate you. Someone being peaceful is too subjective to be a solid title. Say if person 1 who has never raided before gets raided by person 2, and then somehow raids person 2 back?
What if person 1 was a huge antagonistic jerk everyone hated? Which one is peaceful? It's going to differ from person to person. We would get way too many complaints about people who have "peaceful rank" which the complainer thinks is unjust. It just wouldn't be a very practical or solid system.

meh Id rather get to know people and form my own personal opinions about their motives and trustworthiness. Having a peace loving community would be bad for a vanilla survival server, most of the people here strive for pvp and raiding, and a select few like to would nearly sell off their mother for a good raid :P. Having a rank such as that would make newer and gullible people more at risk of ... trusting people, which is the #1 cause of raided hidden bases imo. Personally I'd stake my account on the fact that I would never scam/betray someones trust, but I like to build that trust with someone first, thats half the fun for me. Now someones' base that I don't know or dislike.. free loot heh

I like the idea of a player directory of sorts, a list on the Forums of players, what faction they are on, general play style, and maybe how long they have been with CM. Maybe a spreedsheet type of thing where its short, sweet and to the point.

@FieryPhoenix64 To get a peaceful rank, players would have to apply in the forums, like how you would apply for staff, and then a mod or admin would judge if they are able to get the rank. If a player with a peaceful rank was caught griefing, raiding or killing , they would be de-promoted from [Peaceful] to a regular player.

I see a huge issue with this. It could be abused for the sake of getting to a player's base just to raid. Someone could hold up a good reputation, or an alt with a good reputation, get the peaceful rank, get access to a base, and destroy it. Their only penalty would be losing their peaceful rank for that specific account. And then who is to blame? The raider didn't break any rules according to this. The player who got raided was under the belief this person was safe, under the belief that staff vouched for this raider being peaceful. That player would be out their entire base when they were assured by staff that wouldn't happen. The only winner here is the person who abused the system.

For something like this to work, there'd have to be a lot of restrictions and regulations to prevent abuse of the system. All in all, a lot more work for not a lot in return. There might be a small handful of people that could ever even qualify for peaceful, out of everyone who plays here. And it wouldn't be able to judge if a player is actually a reliably, trustworthy person or not. I think it would alienate a lot of good players who didn't have the rank. Of all my basemates, past and current, I could trust every last one with my life, but most of them would not qualify for peaceful rank. The point is, this system wouldn't be that great a judge of character compared to simply getting to know somebody.

its not that we would rather have it built on trust, its more that theres no way to prove one person as friendly over another. there are just too many variables in the human persona to make it happen.

The Peaceful rank could be on an automated timer that resets if said player kills another. Like, if Player 1 doesn't kill anyone for (x) ticks then they get the Peaceful rank, but if Player 1 kills someone the rank gets removed and the timer resets.

The staff wouldn't even have to play a role in this, it simply means that a player with the Peaceful rank isn't running around trying to kill players.

I think what would be a good solution to this is if anyone were to kill, raid or grief they get perma banned on that account, and if they do it again they get ip banned. This would protect others from that player. Eventually the server would run out of players who wish to kill, raid and grief others and it would be peaceful.

@iwarriiori I think what would be a good solution to this is if anyone were to kill, raid or grief they get perma banned on that account, and if they do it again they get ip banned. This would protect others from that player. Eventually the server would run out of players who wish to kill, raid and grief others and it would be peaceful.

At that point just find a safe survival server lol

@Zaper8 The Peaceful rank could be on an automated timer that resets if said player kills another. Like, if Player 1 doesn't kill anyone for (x) ticks then they get the Peaceful rank, but if Player 1 kills someone the rank gets removed and the timer resets.

The staff wouldn't even have to play a role in this, it simply means that a player with the Peaceful rank isn't running around trying to kill players.

What about tp traping and tnt killing? there are ways to kill someone without it being tied to your name

@FieryPhoenix64 Also what if the player was head farming someone with their permission? I think removing their rank should work on reports

I understand the issue with head farming conflicting with my proposed peaceful rank, however that would be a risk someone would have to be willing to take, perhaps kills in the .pvp area wouldn't count or something.

@SadFeeling At that point just find a safe survival server lol

You're right, I think its time for CraftyMynes to start the long awaited transition to a land claim server. That way players no longer have to worry about raiders and griefers. Protecting your goodies from others with claimed land is a great feature.

... warrior is trolling you, we're a vanilla server, there is not land claiming ability -_-

@iwarriiori You're right, I think its time for CraftyMynes to start the long awaited transition to a land claim server. That way players no longer have to worry about raiders and griefers. Protecting your goodies from others with claimed land is a great feature.

But then how are we going to purge the defaults?!

@SadFeeling But then how are we going to purge the defaults?!

Perhaps the most efficient way to purge the defaults is not by killing them and destroying their bases, but is by buying them all VIP so that they are no longer "default"

@Zaper8 Perhaps the most efficient way to purge the defaults is not by killing them and destroying their bases, but is by buying them all VIP so that they are no longer "default"

getting off tipic abit but, yeah if you got the diamonds i got the cash ;)

@FieryPhoenix64 No, because then you're lured into a false sense of security then someone breaks in to your base with tnt cannons and creepers, blows up your chests then runs off with the good stuff, leavibg the rest to despawn.
Speaking from personal experience here

That’s a good point, you’ll need to have regenerating walls surrounding your base to prevent tnt cannoners.

@FieryPhoenix64 Or just a load of obby. Anyway, if this server went to land claim, which it wont, then Ill just move to a different server.

But with it being a land claim server everyone would have the peaceful rank by default!

@SadFeeling getting off tipic abit but, yeah if you got the diamonds i got the cash ;)

How many diamonds are we talking here?

ill make a seperate post on friday night, aslong as thats not breaking any rules, @CraftyMyner

I find most of this nonsensical TBH, people can change allegiances all the time, and many players who claim to be ''peaceful'' isn't against in participating in specific activities; and it is very easy to mole with this- there's way too much to trouble with going through something like this, and fully knowing who's ''peaceful'' or whatever takes the fun and mystery out of vanilla servers- you're not supposed to know who's 100% trustful, or who isn't; vanilla is all about taking risk and I feel like this would take away from that.

Fair reminder that CM is a griefing and raiding server, which is something people seem to forget. You don't need something to hold your hand.

Is it allowed to sell ranks?

@CraftyMyner ?